Advance Warning

You’re going to do what, now, to my cat?

How kind to sensor himself!

Wauw just found out about this site and wauw… anyways, as male, well, I don’t take video games serious, I were rather serious once, being very competitive and e-sportish, so normally no one likes to play with me or especially not after getting beaten by me. It is my perception that the very few females who play the same video games do it for the same reason as I, so it would be fun to see if that was true, I could finally get a PVP partner(s) in WoW for an example. (Haha, yeah, the few professional gamers in WoW are usually a bit feminine in that area too)
Maybe it is just me, but I think that because I am male then no girls would play with me because of this prejudgice.

Apropos this site, there is not really that much to it is there? Harassed for being female. I am weird and awkward when it comes to interaction with other people, I would most likely get the same if I beated someone in Modern Warfare or what the game is: Something like: “Go die you noob, I will rape you/your father raped you.” kind of stuff, maybe a small part of that the mentioned people on this site are opposite genders has to do with it. Then not really anything else to it.
Mostly it seems like females got this weapon of being the opposite of docile, instead of just ignoring the idiots. The opposite or caring, not not caring, but letting know that they don’t care, instead of just not caring. Weird.

Anyways, I bookmarked this site, what a gold nugget, cheap laugh ;)

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Wauw just found out about this site and wauw… anyways, as male, well, I don’t take video games serious, I were rather serious once, being very competitive and e-sportish, so normally no one likes to play with me or especially not after getting beaten by me. It is my perception that the very few females who play the same video games do it for the same reason as I, so it would be fun to see if that was true, I could finally get a PVP partner(s) in WoW for an example. (Haha, yeah, the few professional gamers in WoW are usually a bit feminine, draw a connectiong if you like ;P)
Maybe it is just me, but I think that because I am male, then no females (represented by this site) would play with me because of the prejudgice. Everything is relative.

Apropos this site, there is not really that much to it is there?: Harassed for being female…. I am weird and awkward when it comes to interaction with other people, I would most likely get the same if I beated someone in Modern Warfare or what the game is: Something like: “Go die you noob, I will rape you/your father raped you.” kind of stuff, maybe a small part of that the mentioned people on this site are opposite genders has to do with it. Then not really anything else to it.

It seems like females got this “weapon” of being the opposite of caring, instead of just ignoring the idiots. The opposite or caring, not not caring, but letting know that they don’t care, instead of just not caring, trying to be as cold hearted as possible, thinking that the stupid males also were cold hearted. Showing that they can leave feelings out from this, thus being superior…. The males they play against on this site, are pretty stupid, with stupid actions, but not seeing this is pretty stupid, but they do know this, they just take it further, which is stupid. It is like the game where you keep taking your hand on top of your opponents hands. Something weird like that… this is just some of those small theory thingies that pass by, I think my logic trashed that theory, too many factors in play. When I was about 11ish, I learned how to shut my feelings on and off, as it was needed.

Tsk well, I am one of the people who think that if a male and female is asked a question, they will answer the same so… whatever. Their reasoning is the same, so what is the point in genders, other than survival of the species. I don’t know what else to say to convince that I am a normal 20 year old Danish guy raised in a family with reasoning and curiousity…. it’s just not normal apparently, so I better tell now. Meep =S (Why did I even post this? Oh right, someone have to prove the excistence of, what I would selfishly call, normal people)

Anyways, I bookmarked this site, what a gold nugget, cheap laugh ;)

Yo, what?

I get the sense that your intentions are good, but stick around and take in more of the issues at hand before trying to describe the situation.

Also, narrow your focus on your posts. You were kind of all over the place there.

 A reply? How come….. anyways. How has my intentions to do with anything? I am a good person yes, if that is what you want to know hehe, I come in peace, incognito, but a humble observer. I am weird, didn’t I tell you that? Describe the situation you say, I just aired a little undescribable theory, people shouldn’t care about, only maybe recognize it. I have seen every single post on this website, and it is an interesting phenomenon. I should focus on the post? Aint that a bit boring? Well then:

This site is a joke right? Overall this is all a joke. Either that or you are this very small group of female gamers who for no reason take this matter serious. Hardly, so it is rather “Hey look girls, let us laugh at this pathetic low life ignorant closed-minded loser, post it with a pep and half-wittedly comment. It is only because we are female that they write these things to us.” as someone on youtube said: “The trolls pick anything about you and harass.”, you seem like this group of females who laugh at the pathetic fool who proposes over the internet and giggles about it. I assume that this is what the site is all about, and I have giggled with you.

I never use the voice chat: no need, and it usually results in me muting a bunch of kids, who just talks shit because they can’t at school (I play mostly on european servers), russians who like to call me a loser and fag when I beat them. Americans are really good at letting me know that I am nothing more worth than dirt, because I have a british accent when I speak english.

I try to stay as unnoticed as possible: Just to avoid the usual: Go suck your father, go die you are so bad, noob, I will kill you, uninstall the game. Now I don’t play the same games as you, and I play mostly on european servers, I sometimes pretend to be a girl to see what happens, and nothing does really, just the same old blatant hate. You are either playing the wrong game, on the wrong servers, or you got issues. You could avoid this easily, but why not get a cheap laugh. I see.

I know what I walk into: Problem solved. There is not really that much more to this site is there? If so, please enlighten me.

(Those who keep silent consents) I have to say that I don’t harass people in games, neither “protect” those who do. Usually I try to stay in the shadows, when I can’t make my account in that state where no one can contact me. You should do the same or there is really no excuse for this. Just ignore the idiots really, you are way better than this.

I like text walls. They make me feel protected (or trapped!). ^_~

Sorry! Just the weirdo in the corner, please don’t mind it, those walls of text came out of boredom… it’s ridiculous sorry. It made a very boring english class fly by though.

“Hello! I hope you are enjoying your beautiful new day!”Well, you too… yeah, have fun shootin’ stuff in video games mate.

Apropos: Parry Gripp – The Girl At The Video Game Store

“You are either playing the wrong game, on the wrong servers, or you got issues. You could avoid this easily, but why not get a cheap laugh. I see.”

This is the kind of thing you should avoid saying if you want to make friends.  Most of the submissions here aren’t from people who are looking to get harassed. No game is safe– there are submissions here from Uno.

How can you predict if there’s going to be an asshole on any given server?  The best way to mitigate that is just to stick with people you know, but if you don’t play on public servers, how do you make the friends to play with?

To suggest that women get harassed online because they “have issues” is downright insulting and inaccurate.

This site, in part, serves as a coping mechanism.  Women can’t escape this harassment when they play games online.  Instead of having the negativity consume them, they’re having a laugh about it.  I think if you’d ask, you’d find that the vast majority of the women here would rather live in a world where this website wasn’t possible.

“Do not respond: This eliminates about 97% of the unwanted hate.”

Again, many (if not most) of the submissions here don’t involve any communication from the submitter at all.  Saying that 97% of the unwanted hate would go away if they didn’t respond is ignorant.  Again, I’d urge you to stick around and get a better feel for the issues before trying to tell people how it is.  You may be here to laugh along, but don’t piss people off as you’re doing it.

I love how he sensors himself XD

I don’t understand if you have either completely misunderstood my poor english, or you are telling me that all of this isn’t a huge joke. I am just playing along.

Listen mate, I see chats here where the submitter is saying “No, I don’t want to be friends with a sexist loser.”, people know this pushes buttons, either that or they are naive. So if they didn’t do that, 97% of the hate would be eliminated, the rest 3% is stuff that I also get, though I am male, we now move into an area where EVERYTHING about you is used. I’m sure that if I played Uno and won enought, they would try to find something about me they could insult. Funny enough, when I ignore it all, they stop, it might take forever, but it happens.

I didn’t say people here are searching to get harassed, but if they without knowing it, fuel the fire, that is a mental condition. An ego and the feeling of being superior is pretty human though.

If I wanted to make friends I wasn’t on a website like this. I am bored and for some reason you are the only person replying, when there should be about 0 people doing so.

I get random hate out of nowhere too, from people I haven’t interfered with, or, after about 7 years of being online I don’t even notice it, or I have unconciously avoided it.

The rest just seemed like you completely misunderstood me, and just searched for something negative in my post. Did I push your buttons without knowing it and the intention to do it? Interesting. Now I know how it feels like to be a female gamer with an ego, you just can’t ignore it now can you? Just kidding.

“Women can’t escape the harassment in online games.”
Neither can I, well, deal with it. You can’t change other people, you can deal with it by changing yourself. You can’t breathe without air, so stay above water.

“Again, I’d urge you to stick around and get a better feel for the issues before trying to tell people how it is.”
I am not trying to tell people how it is, now when I think about it, I might just raise my hand and tell how it looks like from my perspective, but there is nothing to this at all. Were you the only person not noticing this or did the rest of the people just not read the wall of text.

Yes, what a gentleman… a very horny gentleman though. See? I can do this too! Nah seriously, it is pretty funny that these people make absolutely no sense at all, perhaps their depressed part of the brain, that is about sexuality kicks in, and types something, being completely insane.

Welcome to the internet

No way man! You enjoy life and are happy, I am suicidal and sad. We are going to be best buddies!

 Welcome to the internet…
Troll dolls! How precious! And now the text is in grey and everythin’, it is like woow man; what mastermind made this function? We better back the fuck away, we got a badass over here….. oh god I’m bored, any of you play video games?… oh yeah right -.- in the shadows… clever…

Ogre Joseph wants friends, you can help him/her with that.
“but if you don’t play on public servers, how do you make the friends to play with?”
We are best buddies you and I, wanna play? No? Awww man, you seem like such a good gamer, seeing that you have 400 comments on this site. You must be one hell of a troubled female gamer, keep the comments going, saving female gamers comment by comment. Women are not strong… tsk, who the hell thought of that? What an idiot that person… effing, great job dude/dudette; focus my posts, take in some more of the issue, good intentions… no wait man, this is what I have to write as this is a comment section to the picture above.

“Hey yo yo, I like how the person censored the swearing. What an idiot hah!”.

This is the interesting part:
“you’d find that the vast majority of the women here would rather live in a world where this website wasn’t possible.”
It’s like, haven’t people noticed that “other people are the hell”…. we would all live in a better world if we could now wouldn’t we? So, is this a gigglefest or a movement? I mean da’ah!……. oh man these people are so witty! Sure that will stop the huge issue of harassment. Wait it is not about harassment anymore? Just,
“dude what are you typing on this site man? What is it all about, what the hell are you doing here? Girls are getting harassed for playing video games, don’t you get it? It is wroooooooooong, and we are dong everything we can to stop it yo, with these pictures of idiots, maybe they will realize they are idiots, take that hah. You know nothing man, these female gamers take long showers and are suicidal because of this…. and I know much more than you on this liquid relative matter… but stick around…. for no reason….. we need people to fight by our side(?).”
Actually what the hell do you want? Tell me to leave, ehm, ban me, something, that is a clear signal isn’t it? Should I submit all the screenshots I have of death threats and insults regarding my excistence or what?
Should I spread the word? You urge me to spread the word? Wauw, do you actually give a shit? I…. I-i’m touched =,) Calling me ignorant and insulting, now I totally want to! Thanks buddy, you pushed the right buttons! Fuck yes, spread the word….. huge issue…. I love you man, how do you do it? Now I like you, and this site, this is brilliant! Where do I sign up? I got loads of submissions to do.
We need more of that Troll Doll thing! White text suits the fact that I got no soul, hey wait no one got a soul!

 Let’s see: In 10th grade I were the only boy, now in college there is 2-4 boys out of 25-30 in each class. Wait, I haven’t even realised all the dumb shit the girls send my way because I were male, it was rather humiliating, degrading: Like I was not a proper male, just like in your case here. Hm, yeah I see now. Apologies if you think I thought otherwise.

I’m… lost.  You, Sir, are extremely hard to follow. Your logic (or lack thereof) is all over the place. I’m sorry if your grasp of English simply isn’t getting the right message across, but it’s certainly not doing you any favors.

Your quote:

“(Those who keep silent consents) I have to say that I don’t harass
people in games, neither “protect” those who do. Usually I try to stay
in the shadows, when I can’t make my account in that state where no one
can contact me. You should do the same or there is really no excuse for
this. Just ignore the idiots really, you are way better than this.”

Hang on… you’re saying this, but you just called everyone on this site — in fact THE ENTIRE SITE — a joke?!  Again, those are YOUR WORDS, not mine.  How are you helping your own cause by contradicting yourself?!

 Sorry if it has brought inconvenience and confusion, please for the sake of everything, ban the cynical idiot from this site.

There is no message and I should go die in a hole.

Not doing any favors of anything, should it? Yeah I better die soon.

Now when you brought the word logic up:
I didn’t create fatuglyorslutty.com

 Since I now know that you try to find logic in this:
I didn’t create this site.

 I have no cause. This site is a joke, how can you not see it? Look at the slogan, look at the comments. People are here to laugh at the premature idiots, using female gamers’ gender to harass them.

A problem is relative, and I assume that it is only a small group that find this a problem. How? Don’t ask me mate. I assume that the rest of the female gamers do like I did in 10th grade: Ignore the bullshit made from gender differences.

People behind this site know that it is a joke, but it is also a bit serious innit’? But being completely serious about this would be an even greater joke, so let’s make it dignified with being just a minor joke:
Pictures, laughing, wit, joke.

The thing you quoted:
If anyone really have a problem with this; I just gave you the solution: ignore. With a pathetic life in the shadows, hiding from cynism, bullies and idiots…. I know this works, with a certaincy of about sigma 5.

Here is the joke from my part:
Does what I type change, favor or contribute to anything? Probably not. Is there any reason? No. Is there any problem then? I gave the solution, but all of this just tells there is no problem, which I expected.
Would anyone who actually needed help of this regard, use experience from someone whose life have nearly only consisted of dealing with bullshit? No.
Are people better than the idiots, if they make fun of the idiots? Whatever who cares.

This is just a phenomenon, people who made this site are probably smart, most female gamers are smart enough to ignore or laugh at it, which they do, what else would you do?
Celebrate that you get some attention or something, you got the power to make premature male idiots make an effort without any effort, what a super power. lol jk.

Apropos, stuff like this is only happening in US: Elaborate harassment, elaborate websites about sharing and laughing at elaborate harassment. That has got to be some kind of joke furthermore hasn’t it?

^ Elaboration on my quote. What you said afterwards I don’t get at all, contradicting and saying that everyone is a joke. Well, we are all here for the joke, the freak show right? Good, I didn’t go wrong.

No, in fact, you DO have a cause: it was to attempt — feebly, mind you — to make people here think that you are right.  And here we go: as I gathered from the quote I cited, “I don’t harass people”.  Whether or not it’s in game or not, you’re actually doing it now, HERE, by believing that what’s going on here is a joke and thus, INSULTING the people here on the site, and the creators of this site.  And you go on and on and on about it, to everyone — that’s a form of harassment, to all these people you replied to, and all those who might even think to read what you’ve said… all of whom, as you said, are really just here to be amused.

And you said it yourself: what you’re doing does not change, favour or contribute… so if one of the ways to stop the problem is to avoid it (a rather inane solution, to be honest — a child could think that one up), then wouldn’t an equally good solution be to do this: why say anything at all?  There’s a saying (and I’m paraphrasing):  “If you don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything at all.”

And the fact that your whole diatribe ends with “I didn’t go wrong”, and yet you said you’re already doing a form of wrong by saying you’re NOT HELPING, is contradictory enough.  But you continue on, hence all the contradictions.

I’m also insulted by the fact that you say this only happens in the US.  And ironically, I’M NOT FROM THE US.  It happens EVERYWHERE — you’re just turning a blind eye to it, because of YOUR OWN experiences.  Bravo, again, for not caring and thus NOT HELPING.

So, keep posting your long-winded speeches — from the first word you wrote in, methinks the site-runners already understood that you were not going to offer anything of value here.  Thus, you get faded out.

I am not trying to make people think I am right. You seem to be the only person letting me know I am wrong, thanks for that? So the rest of the people here are just assholes for fading my text and ignoring me… huh, well there was this one person though, thanks to that person too.

When I say that I don’t harass  or insult people, that means I do not
harass or insult people. What is your problem mate? We’re all here for
the joke, that means we are all here for the joke. How can a person be a
joke?

All the things I have said is nice. Not in your opinion? Who cares.

There is no problem, only your problem with me, me thinks.

A child could make it up, are you saying that these people are below children?

Go wrong with what? This solution works, it might not help, but it works. Besides, there is no problem. Do you have a problem with people harassing you over the internet? Then do as I said, I promise it helps. Just tell me straight out, that you got a problem with harassing in online games, and I will help you. Just ask for my help, and I will help. In all seriousness, I have all the time in the world, and I would take such a task on my shoulders if you wanted to.

Yes, this was sort of a joke, we all know that all the silly things mostly happens in the US. In a jolly manner; this site is pretty silly, and so what, don’t get insulted by that.

No one is offering jack shit of value anywhere here, honestly where the hell do you see that? I get faded out because people are idiots, they don’t think someone like me excists: “What is that, we can’t categorize this, this is so unknown, what do we do? We fade it out, we wouldn’t want any weird or alien stuff in our perfect little world. We choose what is worth listening too, if you’re not normal, you get alienated.”

It is ridiculous that I am wasting my time on this, it is hillarious actually, most people would say so. It is even more ridiculous that I got faded out, like, what was the great mystery behind this? How does the minds of the Fatuglyorslutty overlords work?

” you’re just turning a blind eye to it”
Give me everything, all the secret goverment documents on this matter. Fuckin’ hours of research, give it to me. I want to hear your story, what is your reality? ENLIGHTEN ME!

“Lastly, why not try and make friends with the asshole huh?”

1.) You want to make friends and “side” with the asshole? You talk together. You play together. You try to find things in common during your gaming hours. You ‘bond.’ You are likely to become an asshole yourself.

2.) You become an asshole – and your previous non-asshole friends will probably not appreciate that very much.

What you seem to think is that “WE” (female gamer here) comment about what stupid, idiotic, perverted shit people type out, that must automatically mean “we” think all men are sad little shits in their parents’ basement who go around harassing young women and threatening to rape them. In other words, we hate men and automatically place label of “LOSER” on them.

No, sir. I’d wager most of us do NOT think that way of “most” men. Many of the guys I’ve played with and spent hours talking to during gameplay are very decent people who treat others with respect. I know there are assholes out there. I know people can still PARTAKE in asshole-ish actions even though at the core, they are NOT assholes themselves. It’s what makes us human.

As someone who’s tried to befriend assholes in L4D2 for MONTHS (in a minor mode with a select handful of people), I can tell you it doesn’t work. As someone who once ‘bonded’ with one of the biggest assholes in L4D2 to the point where I discovered some particular issues with this individual that went far, FAR beyond the range of gaming, “siding” and “making friends” with this individual didn’t work.

It was a mistake.

You might think “If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.”

Wrong.

Being friends with generally civil/respectful people who can do the occasional asshole-ish *move* is understandable. It’s human.

But being friends with *an* asshole turns you into one.

By the way, the above comment just now was by me, Iggy. For some reason FUoS is not processing my Twitter ID. :(

To be honest, I’m not even sure anymore if his intentions were or are good — I get the impression that he basically thinks we’re all a joke.  And he doesn’t think that that’s an insult, so he uses that on us and the site.

He also seems fixated on each of us, as though we’re the only ones who represent this issue, and that it isn’t more widespread than he thinks — we (each of us, chatting here, and posting stuff) are the problem at hand, I guess.

I also really don’t get why he thinks that what he observes, says, and does should be held up as a reflection of what the world should do.  Very narrow-minded, if you ask me.  Like his own little corner of the world IS the world.

And the sad thing is, in the end, I don’t think he will continue to look into the whole matter — I think he’s pretty set in his ways, as he keeps repeating the same thing over and over now: ignore the problem (as if it’ll go away like that), don’t bring it upon yourself (as if people actually draw all this sorta stuff down on them), and that what he does is right, so we all should listen to only HIM.

(sigh) And then he swears at all of us, in the end.  (looks over shoulder, at “whatever-his-name-is”) Okay, we get it.  You’re definitely not a troll, dude.  Keep posting on other articles like that, too.  Oh wait… (facepalm)

 Please don’t call me sir XP…. mam.

Thanks for your reply, and I understand better now, thanks.

Friends… I can be friends and enemies (without knowing it sometimes, fx MW) with almost everyone, without changing who I am. Sorry that I didn’t realize that, when I said “Can’t beat them, join them”.
Friends is a different word for both of us, for an example I have never bonded with anyone.

I know what is happening on this site, I know that you are not women with father complexities or whatever it is called.

I see I see, the core assholes are on the edge of having a mental condition or needs serious treatment perhaps *nods*.

I want to ask you; what do you see this site as, why do you come here?

(Apropos I am a case of “sad little shit in their parents’ basement” actually, ironic isn’t it?)

(Apropos I am a case of “sad little shit in their parents’ basement” actually, ironic isn’t it?)Type your comment here.

Actually, it seems *YOU* were thinking that “we” thought that way. You think that we believe men are all “sad little shits in their parents’ basements.”

Feel free to clarify?

Ah’what? A troll? What is that? You came here with a pretty fucked perception of my text, and then I am a troll for the world to see.

Were you the one fading me out? The moderators can’t be this stupid.

[I see I see, the core assholes are on the edge of having a mental condition or needs serious treatment perhaps *nods*.]

… are you trying to use reverse psychology so that I’ll contradict myself?

Did I say every asshole out there is on the edge of having a mental condition, or needs serious treatment? No, I did not. I used that as an example as to why the solution about an asshole is to be friends with him instead, because I don’t think that’s the right way to go about it.

Eg. Player X berates anyone whom s/he doesn’t believe is “worthy” of playing L4D2 or Halo Reach – anyone who is new to the game and doesn’t have much skill. Your suggestion is to befriend this person and… agree with what they say? Always? Sometimes?

So at the very least while you hear Player X berate and insult other players for lacking “skill”, what should you do? Agree with them? Tell them they’re being an ass? What? If you don’t agree, okay, friends don’t always agree with each other. But if you choose to become friends with someone who spends all of their gaming time disparaging others endlessly, that definitely says something about you.

And Player X sees no reason to NOT disparage other players, so they keep being an ass. So ultimately, what does being friends with this person accomplish?

Nope, that was me. I read every one of your comments and determined you had no intention of engaging with the site in good faith.

We have been known to reverse our opinions, in the past, but based on your record to date I don’t think it’s likely in your case.

Have a good day!

P.S.: We’re not the joke you seem to think we are.

 No no! I don’t think that. I am just saying that I am a sad little shit in my parents’ basement, me, myself. You never thought anyone would say that about themselves or what? =P

I know this sounds impossible and stupid, but I have experienced the same. I don’t think that girl were a “sad little shit in their parent’s basement.”

Alright, getting completely misunderstood again. To get to the bottom;
A video from the producers of this site made a video on youtube where I got the impression that HARASSMENT OF FEMALE GAMERS WERE AN ISSUE. So I ask now: Is it an issue? Or are you just laughing at it?
That is all I want to know.

[Friends is a different word for both of us, for an example I have never bonded with anyone.]

So you’re telling me you have NO friends you regularly game with? Ever?

[ You came here with a pretty fucked perception of
my text, and then I am a troll for the world to see.]

You’re the one who regards this site as a joke.

[Were you the one fading me out? The moderators can't be this stupid.]

Nope. I’m not an admin.

[No
no! I don't think that. I am just saying that I am a sad little shit in
my parents' basement, me, myself. You never thought anyone would say
that about themselves or what? =P]

I’m really not sure what you’re trying to achieve here. So if you’re rephrasing my statement about the basement to make me contradict you, that doesn’t work with me.

[I know this sounds impossible and stupid, but I have experienced the
same. I don't think that girl were a "sad little shit in their parent's
basement."]

You think that I, a female gamer, assume every guy playing a video is an anti-social little shit in their parent’s basement?

[A
video from the producers of this site made a video on youtube where I
got the impression that HARASSMENT OF FEMALE GAMERS WERE AN ISSUE. So I
ask now: Is it an issue? Or are you just laughing at it?]

It’s a real issue. In fact, it’s just one aspect of the very broad range of feminism altogether.

Can’t tell if you want a genuine answer or are just toying around. Well, if it’s the latter, congrats.

 Oh man I hate this, I only now realize that almost everything I say and write is misinterpretated. Ehm, Lydia, you, yes you, I would like to talk to you about this, you got me really interested…. oh man, text can be misunderstood so well, I would really want to talk with you about this. Anyways, almost 3 in the morning where I am.

“Nope, that was me. I read every one of your comments and determined you
had no intention of engaging with the site in good faith.”

Oh so that is what it all is about! (That was ironic/sarcastic) Why didn’t you tell me? That it is all about engaging the site in a good faith, I don’t even know what it means.

I care not about your opinions, nor that you change them. If it was my intention I would most likely have written a PhD about “The female gamer phenomenon: Females entering a male dominant environment”.

What are you then? Can you make an “About” page on this website? Please explain what you are doing, and what you perhaps need help with. If I have to come here and engage in a good faith thing, then sure, where to begin?

 Okay, here it is again -

You think that I, a female gamer, assume every guy playing a video is an anti-social little shit in their parent’s basement?

“You’re the one who regards this site as a joke.”

isn’t it? Isn’t it? Hmm Ron said it wasn’t a joke… so then what is it? Laughing at pictures solves the problem?

“Nope. I’m not an admin.”

You read a reply to MW.

“You think that I, a female gamer, assume every guy playing a video is an anti-social little shit in their parent’s basement?”

For the third time no :) I am just saying that I am an anti-social shit in my parents’ basement. Hello, now you met one of those. How does it feel?

“It’s a real issue. In fact, it’s just one aspect of the very broad range of feminism altogether.”

See… this is why I want to talk, you seem to have some interesting knowledge for an ignorant idiot like me. I would find it most interesting, as I think this phenomenon is interesting.
Oh you think I am toying around too? Well, I don’t even know anymore, I kept on replying and replying, each reply spawned a thousand more misunderstood things to clarify and….. voice chat would be easier.

You know, the REALLY sad thing (I know I mentioned a sad thing earlier, but still) is that, even with his somewhat narrow view of what gets brought up here on the site, and what we’re all “discussing” here in this article, there’s some element of a want to understand, from him.

I just don’t think it’ll get anywhere, since either he can’t get past his own perception of the world, he can’t get past a language issue (which I might really accept, if not for the fact that he responded to others like Ogre, Krista, and myself with some coherance), and/or he won’t bother looking at other info himself to better educate himself on what’s going on here.

@ Zejex : Yes, there is a video, made by the creators of this site, that talks about this sorta thing that we’re seeing in all these articles, as being a serious issue.  And it’s not a joke — the video, OR this website, and those who discuss on it.  And seriously, I’d like to think the people here are a part of all that, so to say that this site is a joke is to insult the people involved too.  Yes, calling people a joke is definitely interpretable as an insult.

And this does happen all over the world, not just the US.  It’s also been discussed in other media outlets — people mention how they were redirected to this site and sites like Not In The Kitchen Anymore, by newspapers and such.  Secret government documents?  No, it’s all out there — you just have to look for it.  And no, these people aren’t LOOKING for the trouble, they’re looking for something to relate to, so that they can cope with it, and handle it differently… and yes, laugh at it, because it can be ridiculous at times.  So look for it — don’t base things just on your own opinion and experiences.  That’s what this is partly about — AWARENESS.  These articles are all here to make the problem known.  We can deal with it in different ways, afterwards, as we go.

[I am just saying that I am an anti-social shit in my parents' basement. Hello, now you met one of those. How does it feel?]

Why are you pretending to agree with what I say? *scratches her head* I don’t care if you agree with me. I wasn’t aiming to get you to agree with me.

I don’t care if you’re saying that just to get a reaction, which you obviously are – I just don’t know why. Or maybe there is no reason and you just like the attention. That’s what trolls do. So I fail to see any point in continuing this discussion.

Either contribute in a progressive manner beyond your advice of “ignore it” or move on.

[there's some element of a want to understand, from him]

Yeah, I’m getting that vibe from him… but it’s really murky. Despite his claims to want to understand, I’m having quite a bit of trouble taking him seriously (eg. “Is this site a joke?”), and I’m far better with the written word than the spoken.

[ voice chat would be easier.]

I don’t know. In voice chat you don’t have nearly as much time to analyze and think about what you say before you actually say it – when you type/write something out, you have time to go back and read what you just typed/wrote.

I’m getting the impression that either English is not your first language, or you have some tense problems with your grammar. If English isn’t your first language, then it *would* be easier to write, rather than speaking.

Yeah, that’s why I was almost guarded in my first reply to him.  But then he comes back with that more trollish attitude of “I haven’t done anything wrong”, when he clearly has stated more than a few ‘wrongs’ initially.  And mind you, I actually hadn’t read his last reply to OgreJehosephatt by then — that had a lot more of an “angry” tone to it, and Ogre was being just as reasonable as you.

But now that I’ve read through much of it… it’s really difficult to take him as having any sort of good intentions.  Even his current “I’m an anti-social shit” angle sounds more like baiting, than anything else.  I almost don’t even think he understands what trolling is, too.

 1. There has never been any discussion.
2. I am an anti-social shit in my parents’ basement, get it? There is nothing more to it. Over. Not preteding to agree with what you say.
3. I am not saying anything to get a reaction, it comes automaticly apparently. I just keep replying, and it is incredible how much I am misunderstood. Fuck my life, I’m going back to mars.
4. “I’m far better with the written word than the spoken.”
Right, then why did you ask those questions if you don’t want answers? When I tell you that you could get much better answers spoken.
5. I’m starting to get pissed off that you think I am here to piss you off. It is so fucking stupid man. What the fuck is wrong with you, am I not speaking english properly? What is with the negative attitude?
6. Contribute in a progressive manner: Direct me please, to the nearest progressive harassment of female gamers department.
7. Where is the FUoS forum?
8. Do I get attention from this, people must be bored if they give attention to some idiot who just began to reply on the replies. Doing some sweet moves in drag in the middle of the long hallway at college was not attention, this is attention!

 If you say so

 Are you just being a dick now or?

@google-4d12c0301e7bc9891ab939f6077ecc71:disqus And there it is, his latest comment.  (sigh) Not his clever “If you say so” remark to me, but his 8-point list of arguments to Lydia/Iggy.  Any notion of me thinking that he had any want to engage in a proper manner just evaporated.

 I don’t care if you guard me, this is getting hillarious. Baiting for what exactly? What would I bait for? That you guys give a shit? I know that no one gives a shit, we’re all on this little boat, all we got is each other. The world is a cynical place, where people are different. And here we are, with our narrow-minds, none of us 3 understand each other. What a symphony.

 Whatever, lol, engage in what? What delusion is that decieve your mind?

Any further replies? Please stop….. thank you. It is almost 4 in the morning here.

[2. I am an anti-social shit in my parents' basement, get it? There is
nothing more to it. Over. Not preteding to agree with what you say.]

Reverse psychology to get a reaction. That’s what I thought.

[4. "I'm far better with the written word than the spoken."
Right, then why did you ask those questions if you don't want answers? ]

Because I can’t tell why you started commenting to begin with.

[What the fuck is wrong with you, am I not speaking english properly? What is with the negative attitude?]

Ah, now we get the vulgarity. Gotta impress the lurkers by showing how macho we are by using the word “fuck.”

And no… you aren’t writing English in a *legible* manner. Your grammar tenses are a bit off and your sentences are fragmented. Proofreading before you hit “Post as…” would help tremendously.

[Are you just being a dick now or?]

Nope. Just direct. Even paraphrasing you when you quoted me, to get you to clarify. Which didn’t work.

 Yeah.

Btw, not to give Zejex credit, but… why *isn’t* there a forum for this stuff? That has a lot of potential.

Mainly because we don’t have the time to moderate one. Keeping an eye on these threads is much simpler.

@inklesspen:disqus Well, we always seem to find one little “something”, in the rest of the stuff he says.  Forum, anyone?

Aww. It’d promote more in-depth discussion. :(

I’m trying to post using my Twitter “Iggy” alias, but when I select the Twitter option, it pops up a window, gives me the “Sign in with Twitter” option… I type in my username/password – then the Sign In window refreshes and it asks for my username/password again.

I can sign in to Twitter directly from the Twitter site but it won’t let me use that ID here.

Any reasons for this?

Sorry to hear that. We use Disqus for comments, so they would be the people to ask about this.

(shrugs) Can’t help you, there.  I have a Disqus ID — that works fine.  Never tried from my Twitter account — maybe I should test that out, to see if I might have similar issues.

Yep, just checked it — have the same issues; log into Twitter, but then using it as my login here just redirects back to the Sign In window. (shrugs) Like Jon said, I suppose you’d have to take it up with Disqus.

This is a GREAT go to regarding internet trolls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3xxE_KPdoY

 Just a quick side-note. I think the moderator(s?) is/are SUPER-FAN-TABULOUS! ^_^

I find your final remarks almost hilarious.  Almost.  I mean, really, it’s 4 in the morning where you are, and yet you’ve stayed up to troll– I mean, discuss with us.  And you imply that you don’t “give a shit” about this site and us.  Follow your earlier advice, next time: if you think something bothers you, but you don’t care, then don’t get involved.

The fact that you think you might’ve learned something… well, I’m sure you’ll sleep better with that knowledge.  Oh wait– you apparently spent half the night trying to persuade US about YOUR opinion.  So, good luck, with the actual possibility of you ever learning, or actually having slept well after (supposedly) staying up so long.  Again, YOUR OWN ADVICE: next time, if you really think it’s a bother, but something more important matters to you more, DO THAT INSTEAD.

Oh wow… a lesson and advice for us… gee.  I’m almost honoured.  Again… ALMOST.  Seriously, I feel I have to stress this, because, as you apparently think misinterpretation is a whole part of this website and its followers, then I must reiterate a whole lot for you.  To continue to point out that the people who follow this site are just egotistic as you say, and get riled up over stupid shit (which, I don’t even know, you think is or isn’t important — get your opinions straight)… that continues to be more and more insulting.  I’ve already said what the people here are doing.  You can keep your opinion of each of them, of myself, and of the site to yourself from now on — ONCE MORE, you didn’t have to intrude in the first place, if it wasn’t important or if it bugged you.  Ignore the problem; it’ll go away or sort itself out in the end.

Learn to follow your own advice, next time.

Woah this thread exploded. Thanks for keeping up with it inklesspen; I have not done so. That in itself is a reason why forums would suck here.

I’m kind of posting without reading here, which isn’t the best idea, but just as another voice to the “no forums” thing:

1) There are people out there who are positively eager to create and moderate healthy gaming communities. This is their focus, this is their specialty, this is what makes their heart soar and fulfills their lives. I’m not one of those people, my time is focused more on talking about other upcoming changes lately.

2) Honestly the best conversations happening right now about video games are happening elsewhere in a much larger context than FUoS, let alone a particular FUoS post. There are plenty of articles that give an overall summary of the “state of gaming and diversity” that have comment sections, as well as other forums and subreddits out there that discuss these kinds of articles. Personally I think the subreddit that is prooooobably closest to the FUoS “mindset” is /r/GirlGamers. Frequently new communities or gaming groups or news sites will be advertised there to recruit. Other places that frequently touch on topics are places like The Border House. But take care where you go: we’re pretty lax and loose with what we allow in the comments around here, but some places are designated Safe Spaces.

Yeah, I’d still like to believe that he came here without the intention of pissing everyone off.  I get the feeling he took what I said as a threat and got  ridiculously defensive and caused him to get offensive.

It’s sucks.  He likes to talk, but he doesn’t want to listen.

Excellent video, DxDD!

 Thanks, dude! ^_^